Why Los Angeles Sucks – Lack of Safe, Connecting Bikeways

This is a shitty city.I’m sorry for not being able to come up with a more academic way of explaining it.  If you want nice clean historical reasons why Los Angeles is so sub-par for pretty much everyone but those living up in the hills, read a Mike Davis book.  If you live in a city for more than a couple of years, it’s your duty to know its history, especially if you have this recurring feeling that something’s not right.  It’s clear that not enough people are standing up in unison to change this hellhole.  I’m just calling it based on what I experience everyday.

“Oh but what about the nice weather, the beach, the movie stars, the abundance of avocados??”.

No.  None of that makes up for the huge inequalities, lack of humanity and compassion, and the bad air quality.

Sure, there’s a cute, livable, walkable bubble here and there, but they’re too far apart to make LA feel like a cohesive city.  As a whole, Los Angeles blows.
First step to creating change is to complain and create a ruckus, let folks know you’re not happy.  That involves, well, a whole lot of complaining.  More cyclists (and Angelenos in general) need to complain, on a regular basis.  Stop going straight home after work to your TV shows, it’s making you lethargic and impassive.

But while you complain as loudly as you  can, you should concurrently try to find out why things aren’t the way they should be.  That’s what I’m hoping to accomplish here.  Why does my daily commute to work feel so unsafe?

Let’s start with one of the most obvious offences.  The reason so many cyclists’ commute through Beverly Hills and the LA Country Club sucks is due to the fact that they have to avoid the few streets that are direct routes through this area.  Sunset, Wilshire and Santa Monica Boulevard.  Further south, we have Olympic and Pico.  Sure, if they’re bold enough, they chance it anyway and deal with the fast moving traffic and bad pavement.  In some lone cases, even a dead-ending bike lane.

Sunset has some decent stretches. But once it starts winding around those blind curves north of the Country Club, you’re using up an extra life riding on a street with no shoulder and no sidewalk to bail out to.

Santa Monica Bl is great throughout West Hollywood, that short-lived bike lane is the best part of my commute.  Slightly better than Wilshire when crossing through Koreatown or Mid-City, but still not a pleasant ride.

Wilshire.  Oh Wilshire.  Potholes the size of craters.  Maybe one day I won’t feel like Don Quixote on a bike, fighting against the rapid buses, and dueling with fast cars with no license plates.  I keep hearing about this bike/bus lane of epic proportions – I’ll believe it when I see it.

Beverly Hills is part of the problem.  I don’t want to be the next Brandon Chau.  We need more enforcement, more accountability – why can’t the police and judicial system be biased in the cyclists’ favor for once?

Whomever is in charge of the Gauntlet on Wilshire is part of the problem.  And we’re not the only ones with a shitty street by that name.  A major part of the problem is the sheer size and placement of the Los Angeles Country Club.  Why is that monstrosity even there?!?  It feels like a slap in the face of riders commuting through there.

Residential streets are not an option – I’ve tried it enough to know that the more you turn off a street and onto another, you increase your chances of getting hit by a nonchalant unattentive motorist.  Therefore, these major thoroughfares must be made safer to ride.

From what I can tell, Los Angeles has been sucking for at least the past 30 years.  All of its major problems still haven’t been dealt with.  Regardless of what cards we’ve been dealt, we can’t let it get any worse.  If you give a damn about this city, you better complain every chance you get.

LA get your standards up!

Mihai Peteu

Software Developer, Bike Safety Instructor, Amateur triathlete

32 thoughts on “Why Los Angeles Sucks – Lack of Safe, Connecting Bikeways

  1. Why is the country club there? Prop 13.
    Why is our infrastructure so poor, why don’t we have the money for decent bike infrastructure? Prop 13.

  2. This city has problems. But, it’s not a “shitty city”. By all means: contribute positively to fixing your criticisms. However, you’re not doing any good by just spewing a bunch of vitriol. If you hate it so much: shut the fuck up and move.

  3. Los Angeles is a shitty city. And no matter where you move, what happens in LA is likely to fuck shit up in some way. The world will be a better place when the earthquake crumbles this shithole into the ocean.

  4. I am a big believer in forcing change upon people. They Feds did that with the Freeway system. They just started building it back in the 1950’s. The largest government program ever undertaken in peace time.
    Well the freeways have failed us in the 21st century. So start building trains on them. Take up a lane or two and run trains down the freeways. No eminent domain necessary. No environmental impact statement, hell the environment will improve with trains. Start charging $10 to use the freeway system. Driving over the Cahuenga pass? $10 please. Driving over the Sepulveda pass, $10 please.
    As far as bicycle infrastructure, start taking away lanes from the cars. Lay down bike lanes on all major thoroughfares. Make it possible to get anywhere on a bicycle.
    The object today is to get people out of their cars, just as the object of the government back in the 1950’s was to get people into cars. Do it now and do it fast.

  5. When a city has the same problems for decades on end, and does nothing major to fix them, then it becomes a not so good place to live. If you live in a protected bubble and you’re not working class, then sure, LA is a lovely place.

    LA has some good, hard working people. It also has a lot of apathetic people, across all socioeconomic backgrounds. How else would so little progress have been made since the 60s??

    It’s definitely a great city for shopping and other superficial activities. It’s a great place to raise kids with asthma.

    All sarcasm aside, LA also has its positive qualities. But I’m not so sure they outweigh all the negative ones.

    While I’m here, it’s my city, and I’ll do my best to contribute. I do care, don’t get me wrong. I just have extremely high expectations. I wish others would wake up and realize they deserve better.

    I would love to move, but I like a good challenge. So for now, I’m staying.

  6. Direct blame for lack of a decent rail network in LA should be placed squarely on GM and the Highway Lobby.

    A documentary called Taken for a Ride (1996) explains quite thoroughly how we arrived at our current motor-centric state.


    So I guess it’s fair to place blame on the federal government since they often act like puppets controlled by the the car and oil industry.

  7. First, fuck you.

    You don’t like LA, get out. Go find a better place.

    I’m a cyclist too and sure there are issues with LA, like any city. But I’m not going to stand by while you slander my hometown.

    LA is a great town for cycling whether you are a roadie, a commuter, a hipster, even a mountain biker. It’s not perfect, but we can cycle year-round and for the most part, the various cities are trying to make things better. You might not like the pace, but you can’t say things aren’t improving compared to 10 years ago.

    Complaining without offering solutions is just being a jerk. You don’t offer any solutions, you just complain like a two year old toddler.

    Lastly, fuck you.

  8. Michael, my article, whether it offends you deeply or not, is a call to arms. Simple and plain. So if this is your proud hometown, can you say that you’re happy with the pace that it’s improving? That’s what I’m getting at here.

    I’ve been here less than 10 years, but I’m sure that I’ve put in more work and sweat to improve this city than a lot of people who’ve been here longer. I hope you’re doing your best to push for change.

    I’m not going to stand while my friends are getting mowed down. While I do other work in the background to make LA livable, I believe I have the right to complain as loudly as possible.

    LA *could* be a great town for cycling. You’re lying to yourself and to others if you’re claiming that it’s safe to ride in this city. And I mean the WHOLE city, not just Long Beach, the “bike district”, Santa Monica, Pasadena, etc.

    Would you tell your parents to hop on a bike and start riding without the veteran training that you’d need to survive? Would you tell your younger siblings to pick up cycling in LA? Would you be totally okay with your girlfriend riding alone across town?

    I am hinting at solutions in this article. Put pressure on Beverly Hills and whomever owns that monstrosity of a Country Club next to it. Please, by all means, if I’ve struck a chord, then take that “fuck you” and direct that energy towards those officials who aren’t doing their job.

  9. Complaining – THAT is the way to fix things? Are you retarded?

    Seriously – ask someone who’s married to a complainer.

    Talk to anyone who works in a complaint department.

    Complainers, whiners, and bitches are just plain annoying, and almost always get the OPPOSITE of what they want – which makes them MORE frustrated, and therefore complain more, and therefore makes everyone hate them even more and listen less.

    Extract your head from your butt, dude. Bike-folk have enough PR problems without adding the reputation of being a buch of whining bitches.

    Biking is about joy and fun and celebration … or at least cheap transportation. We can sell that, and get our changes a lot more effectively than by being nagging, idiotic jerks.

  10. Bob –

    There’s a big difference between someone who complains and does nothing, and someone makes a complaint in the course of acting. Mihai has always worked hard to make LA a better place for cyclists. He’s volunteered for Bikerowave for years, written for this blog for years, supported the Bike Working Group, the Bike Writers Collective and so on. You characterizing him as a complainer is way off base.

    He is complaining, rightfully so, about the crappy state of affairs. That does not make him a complainer, a whiner, or a bitch.

  11. Also – I have to remind you to be civil. These are borderline comments, and not acceptable by Bikeside’s standards. I’m allowing this to continue because Mihai asked me not to remove out-of-line comments, but if it goes further, I will.

  12. Alex, are you serious? If so, I’m totally confused.

    First, I don’t understand how my comments are nearly close to “unacceptable” in light of previous comments. Maybe you could post some guidelines if you only want certain stuff said.

    Second, I don’t know (or care much) about Mihai’s actions in the short time he’s been in this city – I responded to the article in which he ADVOCATES complaining as a method of getting results – and – he starts by trashing the city itself! He could be out with a shovel filling potholes himself on weekends for all I know, but it doesn’t change the fact that he’s encouraging a group of activists to take the wrong kinds of action.

    “One attracts more flies with honey than with vinegar” is true.

    There have been many campaigns over the past several decades here in LA that have worked because they got the rich, powerful and influential citizens of our city on the side of the campaign. Risking alienating them by insulting them, complaining, blaming them, etc., is not an effective method to promote change.

    So the question is, do you want to be effective, or do you just want attention?

    If this comment is also borderline, don’t post it. Some people are just too closed-minded to change, I guess.

  13. I’m sorry if my comment has hurt BikesideLA’s delicate sensibilities.

    But if you throw stones, expect some to come back.

    My point is that general complaining about the overall greater Los Angeles area is useless and in many cases harmful, tending to wrongly portray cyclists as idealistic wingnuts.

    Focusing efforts on local directed action is what’s needed, not widespead complaints. I don’t ride Beverly Hills much and I have no idea about the issue. My couple of ride up a canyon or two there have been good. It’s up to locals to work with officials about their concerns, not guys from South Pasadena, like me.

    I have spoken with the South Pasadena city council, the Burbank city manager (i commute there via bike), and the Pasadena city bike czar (whatever they call it…) about my concerns and with praise for what they have done. Of course it’s not perfect, but things are getting better.

    When someone who lives or works in the community can talk specifically and calmly about issues and how it affects them, it is much more likely to get action than a horde or screaming people from outside the community.

    As far as my parents, I’m happy to have them ride the mean streets of Harbor City and Lomita. My dad was bike commuting in the 70s on his sweet Raleigh. My daughters ride their bikes around town unsupervised.

    Going to busy areas such as Downtown or other busy areas requires more awareness and skill, true. But that is no different than driving a car. Drop a new driver off in Westwood or Downtown and they are going to have problems.

  14. Not sure exactly what the problem with the LACC is. How does its existence affect bike commuter traffic? Is it the 0 feet of bike space?

  15. Well Michael, maybe you hit the nail on the head then. I guess I am an Idealist. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Beats being apathetic in my book.

    I want a better quality of life for everyone, especially for those who work their asses off and deserve better.

    I have extremely high expectations, and you all should too, especially if you call this your hometown.

    But right now, Michael and Bob are sounding like Idealists rather than Realists at this point.

    I used to live in Santa Monica and ride 4-5 miles to work every day. That was fairly easy and safe, but I still wouldn’t put the city on a pedestal because of that. There is always room for improvement when your life is threatened by motorists with a sense of entitlement.

    “Biking is about joy and fun and celebration … or at least cheap transportation.”
    Yes, until you get run off the road by a mean spirited motorist or someone not paying attention. If this hasn’t happened to you guys, then great, I keep wishing you the same good luck. I wish I had the same kind of luck.

    “My couple of ride up a canyon or two there have been good.”
    That’s great. I ride up canyons maybe once a month, and that’s usually peaceful too. But I ride Wilshire, Sunset and Santa Monica multiple times a week. Anyone care to comment on those?

    “There have been many campaigns over the past several decades here in LA that have worked because they got the rich, powerful and influential citizens of our city on the side of the campaign. Risking alienating them by insulting them…”
    Non-whites in this country got their civil rights handed over to them because they politely asked over and over.

    I want to hear from the commuter cyclists on this one. People that put up with the same 10-12 commute every day.

    Think about why you really felt offended by my comments. If you don’t live in LA proper (the boundaries are vague to begin with), yet you still find my comments hurtful, then you must realize all these little boroughs and suburbs are connected. So yes, by all means, fight the local advocacy battles, but also try to see the big picture.

  16. I’m always fascinated by those irony-deficient folks who complain about those who complain. It’s particularly endearing when, after no doubt mulling over the original complainer’s options for quite some time, the best solutions they offer is “fuck you” and “move.”

    That furthers the debate right along, doesn’t it?

    As a Los Angeles native with a lot of bike miles under my wheels, I don’t have quite the same critical view of the city that Mihai offers, but I don’t fault him or certainly I don’t dismiss him with disgusting expletives and demands that he leave town.

    Working from home now my commute involves shuffling from the bedroom downstairs to my desk (with side trips to get the newspaper from the front steps and coffee from the kitchen), but between 2007 to May of this year my daily commute was predominately by bike from Silver Lake to Westchester and back 30-miles roundtrip and I can fully relate to Mihai’s frustration over the institutionally dysfunctional bike network (more like notwork) we are forced to endure for distances beyond local neighborhood trips.

    With the amount of biking I’ve done I’m certainly an old warhorse who doesn’t think twice about taking routes many wouldn’t, and in fact I have a pretty laid back “just do it” view about what it takes to get across town. But that doesn’t mean I’m stupid and blind to the problems. Hell no: you’ll never catch me on Santa Monica Boulevard through Beverly HIlls (instead I arc all civilized through that municipality via Carmelita between Doheny and Wilshire (aka, Beverly Hills Bike Boulevard).

    We most certainly have a long way to go, but we’ve also come a long way in a relative short amount of time. HFS: the mayor’s saying the word “bicycle” on the record (though I wish he’d quit jabbering about helmets). There are sharrows on the streets, OMFG!

    Is it enough? Of course not. Not by a long shot. But instead of being offended by Mihai’s outrage try at least to recognize that underneath the bombast he’s seeing the potential and saying it won’t be realized by those who sit idly by.

  17. Mihai started his post with “This is a shitty city.” and “Sure, there’s a cute, livable, walkable bubble here and there, but they’re too far apart to make LA feel like a cohesive city. As a whole, Los Angeles blows.”

    I’m a native Angeleno, growing up in LA City proper, a LAUSD grad.

    To my ears, you are slamming me and my city in general.

    I think you meant something like:

    “I’m frustrated at the cycling situation in Los Angeles, especially so in Beverly Hills and think we need to do something about it.”

    Unfortunately your post didn’t come across that way. It came across as an attack on the city I love and myself. I think my reaction is justified.

    My bike commute to work is ~16 miles each way. ( http://connect.garmin.com/activity/43326772 ) I can tell you the places that are great (the river bike path) and the places that suck (York Blvd coming up into South Pas as it becomes Monterey).

    My point remains that slagged the entire city is completely unhelpful is achieving our mutual goal, a more bike friendly city/county.

  18. “Your observations of problems in LA are statements of the obvious.”

    Thank you, now let’s get to work.

    By the way, I have absolutely no idea whether whining works in Romania. I have no ties nor leverage in that part of the world.

    I wish you all the best of luck on your amazing daily commutes.

  19. Comment which Mihai replied to was removed, hence, why Mihai’s comment may not make sense. Attacking a persons character base-lessly is not permitted on Bikeside.

  20. Michael,

    I think he is slamming LA but not you. You may find it insulting, but knowing Mihai, I think that he cares deeply for this place and more so for it’s pepole. That said, I think it’s totally valid for him to criticize this city and it’s short comings. You and he have different expectations of the one of the world’s most influential cities. I come down with Mihai – other major world cities do a better job than LA, they meet a higher standard, and I feel that Los Angelinos have become to accustomed to the failures of their city. 2nd rate is often all people expect in LA – 2nd rate and don’t complain about it.

    The famous negotiating tome Getting to Yes suggests that one should be hard on the problem, soft on the people. I don’t think that Mihai slammed you personally, I think that he criticized the city. You may identify with the city – but that is your problem, not a problem with what Mihai wrote.

    Good to read your words and hear your thoughts Will!

  21. Clearly I’m late to this party, but I stumbled across this page and felt compelled to comment and let you know that for what it’s worth, as an LA native, I agree 100% with you. In fact, I attribute a huge part of the problem on the lack of community and organization amongst cyclists in LA. Michael’s comment above about the need to “focus efforts on local directed action” and talking about how he’s approached the Pasadena city council, Burbank whoever, and Pasadena czar of whatever but doesn’t feel the need to support initiatives on the other side of town tell me that he doesn’t give a f*ck about me and I am on my own. Just like the neat and tidy lines on a map of LA that separate each community in this county, what’s his is his and what’s mine is mine. That sentiment and viewpoint is exactly what I don’t like about LA, and why it’s so hard to organize here.

    LA is an expansive city with wide boulevards that cut through multiple communities – in order to be heard in this landscape, we need to stand together: from the cyclists in Santa Monica through Beverly Hills through Hollywood through Downtown, and up and beyond, we all share the same roads that run through our city, and so we all owe it to each other to help make these roads safer by increasing awareness and visibility of bicyclists on the road. We have as much of a right to be on the road as drivers and pedestrians, and we should approach the argument from that perspective.

    By the way, it’s great that Michael can fill us in on which paths or roads to take so we don’t have to co-exist with cars (like a river bike path), but the point is to make the streets safer for everyone, including York Blvd coming into South Pasadena.

    p.s. LAUSD grad here too.

  22. Wendy – it is so tough to organize here. We’re just in this effectively infinite expanse of humanity and concrete, and it truly lends itself to factionalism. That said, don’t you think we’re kicking a lot more ass than we were 5 years ago? I think cyclists, and grassroots communities in general are doing much better than they were.

  23. I assume you all younger than 35. Then you don’t remember the way Los Angeles was before the coming of this current bike craze. I do as I always rode a bicycle over a car (and yes, I do have a valid CA driver’s license). It was far better from the early 1980s and earlier as the crowds of desperate people did not exist yet. I did not need any political clout or “protection”, no special bike paths and/or other such nonsense, or any other special treatment. I was fine and able to get around with minimal fuss. It was the desperate waves of humanity that through this nice city into a third world garbage heap with a few moneyed people on top.

  24. Never met such a bunch of hapless, soulless, uneducated poseurs, with parasitic personas to match, then I did while living in Lis Angeles. Only in a town such as Los Angeles do people take pride in being arrogant, but that’s just a textbook trait of people who have serious self-loathing.

  25. I’m with Michael. Trashing a place and then going from there is lame. But while we’re going to trash L.A. anyway, and compare it to “other world cities” then let’s get to other city bashing.

    Chicago is a piece of crap. The streets can not be widened/expanded as they are too dense with old buildings and storefronts. The 6-street countless intersections are feking frightening. The self-entitled, Midwestern fratboy, garbage mentality has landed me, a pedestrian, in the hospital with ruined knees, at least 10 other bike riding friends I know in casts with broken femurs, backs, tail bones, collar bones ect … , and one friend dead – under the tires of a cement truck. There might be 3-bike lanes/paths in that whole hell hole. And you want to talk about pot-holes? Yes they are bad in L.A. but the grand canyons created by -10 degree weather that rules Chicago 75% of the time, are indescribably horrific. And this is just the tip of the iceberg with Chicago. I simply will not ride there. And the train goes to about 40 – 50% of the city. That leaves a huge chunk inaccessible, unless you have a car.

    Then there’s NYC of which I hear the exact same complaints only, the East Coast auto drivers are even meaner than the MW’ers … not sure if I can believe that but I’ve heard that from East Coast riders a few times. And NYC’s air pollution is actually worse than L.A.’s.

    Two “world-class cities” down … what else does that leave for places in the USA?

    Well I also lived in Kansas City. Have fun riding in that redneck – highly deteriorated road infrastructure – one horse town…
    That city has literally 1 bike path, and no bike lanes. Road construction consists of gaping 12 x 12 ft holes that may or may not be covered with 5-inch thick sheets of steel all over the place. And the Midwest mentality there is more dumb but also too mean to share the road … and dumb is actually more frightening to me. I’d rather deal with silly motorists on Sunset than the swerving, unaware, farm town soccer mom whose smoking a cigarette and talking on a cell phone, while feeding her Kansas child a Big Mac and a Big Gulp. And Kanas City is the only place I’ve dealt with ugly fat dudes in pickup trucks pulling up next to you while they proceed to masturbate and follow you. And the cops there … don’t look at them the wrong way or you’ll get taken in on trumped up charges just as soon as you bat your eye lid …

    Want me to go on? I could – really. Ohhh boo hoo L.A. is b0rked. Yea you know every U.S. city seems to be “shitty.” I mean there’s Baltimore, Tampa, Oklahoma City, Tulsa, New Orleans, Dallas, Virginia Beach, D.C., Milwaukee, Des Moines, Cincinnati, Philly … Seriously – where isn’t shit, if you want to ride your bicycle (and if not too)?

    Anyway – I’ve been in L.A. a year now and I can’t say it’s a favorite place by any means, but I can say I am glad I don’t live in the Midwest or on the East Coast … or even down in the Deep South. L.A. streets are some of the widest and smoothest I’ve seen from my lifetime of traveling. I may not like it here as much as some people do but I’m not going to slander a proud Angelino’s home. Just like I would never tell my friends that Chicago is dumb or say “Why on earth are you living in Oklahoma City?!” Although I must say it is fun to bash everything under a pseudonym – I digress though. To start off bashing with strong word like “shitty” is fundamentally demeaning and wrong. It sure as hell isn’t journalism, if thats what you were trying to go for. It basically detracts from what you claim means the most to you… which is apparently improving L.A.? I think so anyway. Still can’t figure out what you’re really saying but I think it’s to improve L.A. A noble cause.

    So yea – stick to one message dude and think it through. Look before you leap … ect … And if you believe L.A. is shit then go live in Baltimore or Kansas City and report back. Go on, I encourage you to go live in another city and tell us it’s any better … you won’t be able too because – nothing is better.

    The REAL lesson here today is home is where your heart is. So enough with the name calling and start figuring out exactly where your heart belongs. =p

  26. I’m no journalist by any means. I’m probably more of a muckraker minus all the research. Think Captain Obvious with a megaphone. Yes, it’s true that LA is better in relative terms to other cities, but that’s no excuse for accepting the status quo. Why not point at the cities that do things better and judge ourselves by a higher standard instead of thinking “oh, we’re better than ___, so let’s just lull in our mediocrity”.

    In regards to pavement quality – the Midwest has an excuse to have bad pavement, due to the weather. We don’t have the same nearly the same temperature swing or the snow and ice. Cyclists and pedestrians aren’t the ones responsible for tearing up the pavement in LA, that’s for sure.

    Wide and smooth streets invite motorists to speed. Those are the streets I tend to stay away from nowadays. Getting hit at 30 versus 35 mph could mean the difference between life and death.

    Drivers may seem more courteous in Los Angeles, but they still kill people. They still drive drunk, they still don’t know the rules of the road, and they will leave your ass lying in the road without providing any assistance after launching you through the air.

    I may never find a city that I’m satisfied with. People tell me my standards are too high. I just think everyone else’s standards are too low. While you’re calling a certain place home, no matter for how long, you might as well try to improve things, no matter how hopeless it may seem.

    Thanks for keeping the conversation alive!

  27. la sux because it’s a 3rd world country. only difference between police and gangs is the uniform, and it’s only populated by retards and immigrants. it’s like if mexico, viet nam, and england had some nasty 3-way b*st*rd. haven’t seen anything that bad since hawaii, or new york, or boston…

  28. I understand the frustration, but at the same time you are not a child. Be a man and deal with it. Toughen up a bit. That’s part of the program for LA. I was born and raised in Los Angeles. I have a love/hate relationship with my hometown. But, it’s home. LA has changed drastically since I was a kid and even in the last 15 years. But, the change has more to do with a rise in population. It grew and is still growing too much too soon.
    I used to commute by bike in Pasadena and the San Gabriel valley back in 96-98 and it wasn’t so bad. I stopped biking for a few years and then started biking to my new job down on La Brea and 3rd. So, my biking was from Alhambra to La Brea and 3rd daily. There are streets that are freakin horrendous. they feel more like the national park riding in Moab Utah than a city street. But, that was part of the journey, part of the biking experience. It kept me on my toes. Sharpened the senses. If you want smooth sailing, just ride the bike path at santa monica beach.
    LA in general is getting weirder, but that’s mostly because the majority of people are from other parts of the country. Native Angelenos are a rarity. We usually just ride the wave of craziness that is de rigeur for LA.

  29. Wow – I didn’t know that you aren’t allowed to have a negative opinion about something without people telling you to f*ck off and move! Lol. What a bunch of losers – L.A. blows, and it’s rated as the second most dangerous place to live as a cyclist or pedestrian in the entire country, after NYC. That’s a fact. And the entire rest of the country has adequate and safe bike paths.

    And for those of you who have a problem with that – then I guess you can go f*ck yourself and drive right into oncoming traffic! Lol. Would serve us all the better, since you probably ride your bike in the same way that most dipstick Angelenos drive their vehicles.

  30. Amen to this. I fucking HATE, HATE, HATE Los Angeles. Thank god I’m moving 6,000 miles away in 9 days. I’ve been hit and had too many close calls in this embarrassment of a city; can’t put this effing shithole behind me fast enough. Congrats on getting a first page result for people googling “Fuck LA”

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