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	<title>Comments on: WeHo Sheriff&#039;s Aggress Toward Cyclists</title>
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		<title>By: BrianC</title>
		<link>http://www.bikesidela.org/weho-sheriffs-aggress-toward-cyclists/comment-page-1/#comment-1915</link>
		<dc:creator>BrianC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 14:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I were the sheriff in charge of those officers they would be on bike patrol for months to learn about biking culture and the mentality of bikers in the city. They clearly don&#039;t understand why people ride bikes and don&#039;t respect their rights as citizens first.
Bikers in the city should also use a little more common sense and show more respect to people who choose not to ride a bike. Bikers can become quite smug, especially in groups because we feel more protected. Biking in cities is just becoming popular in America as well and many drivers are not used to driving around bikes and get scared (America&#039;s driving standards are a joke by the way, a brain dead monkey goud get a drivers license). More education and understanding from both riders, cops and drivers will solve the issues brought up in the article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I were the sheriff in charge of those officers they would be on bike patrol for months to learn about biking culture and the mentality of bikers in the city. They clearly don&#8217;t understand why people ride bikes and don&#8217;t respect their rights as citizens first.<br />
Bikers in the city should also use a little more common sense and show more respect to people who choose not to ride a bike. Bikers can become quite smug, especially in groups because we feel more protected. Biking in cities is just becoming popular in America as well and many drivers are not used to driving around bikes and get scared (America&#8217;s driving standards are a joke by the way, a brain dead monkey goud get a drivers license). More education and understanding from both riders, cops and drivers will solve the issues brought up in the article.</p>
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		<title>By: david p.</title>
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		<dc:creator>david p.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 01:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.

dr. mlk jr.

brother.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.</p>
<p>dr. mlk jr.</p>
<p>brother.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhode Bloch</title>
		<link>http://www.bikesidela.org/weho-sheriffs-aggress-toward-cyclists/comment-page-1/#comment-1913</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhode Bloch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 18:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dont get me wrong I think we should stand up for our right as cyclists. but it becomes a different dynamic when we group up and many times break laws. it&#039;s a give and take. right now we have a calendar filled with party rides and maybe 10% of them get broken up by the cops. the reality is many times people are drinking and acting a fool on these rides... some of which is clearly not legal and for good reason. if we are to be treated as traffic then we would be bound to behave as traffic. that means no drinking and riding.... do we really want to start making a bunch of noise because the cops got crazy here and there? the more noise we make about it the more scrutiny we will get. I&#039;m just sayin&#039; keep it under the radar and understand the give and take. one look at the Ridazz gallery and you see open containers all over the place. we dont need the extra scrutiny brought on by whining about a few instances of &quot;harassment&quot; we want to continue to have fun and party together dont we?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dont get me wrong I think we should stand up for our right as cyclists. but it becomes a different dynamic when we group up and many times break laws. it&#8217;s a give and take. right now we have a calendar filled with party rides and maybe 10% of them get broken up by the cops. the reality is many times people are drinking and acting a fool on these rides&#8230; some of which is clearly not legal and for good reason. if we are to be treated as traffic then we would be bound to behave as traffic. that means no drinking and riding&#8230;. do we really want to start making a bunch of noise because the cops got crazy here and there? the more noise we make about it the more scrutiny we will get. I&#8217;m just sayin&#8217; keep it under the radar and understand the give and take. one look at the Ridazz gallery and you see open containers all over the place. we dont need the extra scrutiny brought on by whining about a few instances of &#8220;harassment&#8221; we want to continue to have fun and party together dont we?</p>
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		<title>By: Rhode Bloch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rhode Bloch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 18:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tend to agree with Humm this is relatively petty to complain about. And the title of this story is misleading - it should read &quot;WeHo Sheriffs Crack Down on Group Party Rides.&quot; And I thought Fanz had a warrant? Why is that being downplayed? That&#039;s a big deal you know. Warrants are no joke. Been there done that. Jail is not fun and it&#039;s not meant to be comfortable or the least bit desire-able. LOL.  I love Franz but he has to handle biz with the law just like everyone else. And all this talk about harassment... sure it&#039;s all relative, but it does come off as petty when our own citizens are being oppressed in south LA and refugees are being bombed by US manufactured weapons in Sudan, Iraq and Palestine DAILY. I know I know, it&#039; all relative... But it sure does have an air of whinyness to it considering the ills of the world... we are priviledged enough to be able to flout the law by running lights and drinking all without getting shot or beaten which is a reality for many peoples out there in the world for simply living let alone for partying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend to agree with Humm this is relatively petty to complain about. And the title of this story is misleading &#8211; it should read &#8220;WeHo Sheriffs Crack Down on Group Party Rides.&#8221; And I thought Fanz had a warrant? Why is that being downplayed? That&#8217;s a big deal you know. Warrants are no joke. Been there done that. Jail is not fun and it&#8217;s not meant to be comfortable or the least bit desire-able. LOL.  I love Franz but he has to handle biz with the law just like everyone else. And all this talk about harassment&#8230; sure it&#8217;s all relative, but it does come off as petty when our own citizens are being oppressed in south LA and refugees are being bombed by US manufactured weapons in Sudan, Iraq and Palestine DAILY. I know I know, it&#8217; all relative&#8230; But it sure does have an air of whinyness to it considering the ills of the world&#8230; we are priviledged enough to be able to flout the law by running lights and drinking all without getting shot or beaten which is a reality for many peoples out there in the world for simply living let alone for partying.</p>
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		<title>By: Mihai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mihai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 04:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bentstrider, you could enforce laws or ideas a whole lot better as a teacher.  Guns batons bright lights &amp; big ass cars are for the weak.  Plus, the cop life makes you chubby.

Everyone&#039;s gotta fight the bullshit locally.  This may seem like a small incident, but it&#039;s representative of the larger culture, one which denotes cyclists as low lives w/ no buying power.  That same culture that goes to their 9-5 job everyday and could care less about wars abroad and problems at home, as long as the mortgage is low and gas is cheap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bentstrider, you could enforce laws or ideas a whole lot better as a teacher.  Guns batons bright lights &amp; big ass cars are for the weak.  Plus, the cop life makes you chubby.</p>
<p>Everyone&#8217;s gotta fight the bullshit locally.  This may seem like a small incident, but it&#8217;s representative of the larger culture, one which denotes cyclists as low lives w/ no buying power.  That same culture that goes to their 9-5 job everyday and could care less about wars abroad and problems at home, as long as the mortgage is low and gas is cheap.</p>
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		<title>By: the reverend dak</title>
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		<dc:creator>the reverend dak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 00:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@humm,

yeah, there was a tone of voice, you read it right. But still - you are belittling the situation, you belittled it because you see it as petty. But I don&#039;t see it as petty. Yeah, it doesn&#039;t compare to civil atrocities that occur in most parts of the world. But it&#039;s still wrong, and we have the capacity [i.e. privilege] to confront it. It&#039;s not headline news, you&#039;re not going to see it show up on channel 11. No one here is going to sue for a single dollar. So, really, it&#039;s not that big of a deal. But if you think it&#039;s small beans for a person to sit in jail for a couple days, humiliated, then released for $10,000 in bail for a PETTY $250 CRIME  - I don&#039;t know what to say. Drinking a beer while riding a bike is petty, going to jail for it - a waste of your tax dollars. Shining lights into the eyes of witnesses is not petty, it&#039;s illegal - it&#039;s obstruction of justice. Shoving witnesses is assault, which is also illegal. Seizing our private property for no reason, is unconstitutional, period. No one should stand for that, so why should we? That&#039;s what this article is about. To comment on here, with your entitled opinion, without being called out on your bs? Dream on Holmes.</description>
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<p>yeah, there was a tone of voice, you read it right. But still &#8211; you are belittling the situation, you belittled it because you see it as petty. But I don&#8217;t see it as petty. Yeah, it doesn&#8217;t compare to civil atrocities that occur in most parts of the world. But it&#8217;s still wrong, and we have the capacity [i.e. privilege] to confront it. It&#8217;s not headline news, you&#8217;re not going to see it show up on channel 11. No one here is going to sue for a single dollar. So, really, it&#8217;s not that big of a deal. But if you think it&#8217;s small beans for a person to sit in jail for a couple days, humiliated, then released for $10,000 in bail for a PETTY $250 CRIME  &#8211; I don&#8217;t know what to say. Drinking a beer while riding a bike is petty, going to jail for it &#8211; a waste of your tax dollars. Shining lights into the eyes of witnesses is not petty, it&#8217;s illegal &#8211; it&#8217;s obstruction of justice. Shoving witnesses is assault, which is also illegal. Seizing our private property for no reason, is unconstitutional, period. No one should stand for that, so why should we? That&#8217;s what this article is about. To comment on here, with your entitled opinion, without being called out on your bs? Dream on Holmes.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Thompson</title>
		<link>http://www.bikesidela.org/weho-sheriffs-aggress-toward-cyclists/comment-page-1/#comment-1909</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 23:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa!  This is a hot one.

@EDDIEBOYINLA - WEHO IS RACIST AGAINST HUMANZ!

@humm

Here&#039;s how I see it.  Yes, Ridazz benefits from white privilege.  For damn sure we would get messed with a lot more if Ridazz wasn&#039;t mostly white people.  What Franz and the rest of us experienced pales in comparison to what black and brown experience in South LA.

On the other hand, what people experience in South LA is nothing by comparison to the experience of a Sudanese refugee.  Does that mean Compton residents should keep quiet when police abuse their power?  HELL NO.  They should fight.  We should too.

&quot;Humm&quot;, it&#039;s not that I&#039;m out of touch, it&#039;s that for me, Ridazz is my community.  When the man fucks with it, I&#039;m going to defend it.  Yes, there are more pressing issues in the world, but I have little capacity to make a difference in South Central or Sudan.  I don&#039;t live there, I haven&#039;t built up any reputation, and I don&#039;t have a personal experience with that.

I do have personal experience with WeHo deputies.  I know they aren&#039;t too good.  Maybe bikers making a ruckus over this will open the door for other people to complain about the Sheriff&#039;s.  The Sheriff&#039;s don&#039;t have a good reputation . . . can we create an opportunity here for other groups to air their issues with them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa!  This is a hot one.</p>
<p>@EDDIEBOYINLA &#8211; WEHO IS RACIST AGAINST HUMANZ!</p>
<p>@humm</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s how I see it.  Yes, Ridazz benefits from white privilege.  For damn sure we would get messed with a lot more if Ridazz wasn&#8217;t mostly white people.  What Franz and the rest of us experienced pales in comparison to what black and brown experience in South LA.</p>
<p>On the other hand, what people experience in South LA is nothing by comparison to the experience of a Sudanese refugee.  Does that mean Compton residents should keep quiet when police abuse their power?  HELL NO.  They should fight.  We should too.</p>
<p>&#8220;Humm&#8221;, it&#8217;s not that I&#8217;m out of touch, it&#8217;s that for me, Ridazz is my community.  When the man fucks with it, I&#8217;m going to defend it.  Yes, there are more pressing issues in the world, but I have little capacity to make a difference in South Central or Sudan.  I don&#8217;t live there, I haven&#8217;t built up any reputation, and I don&#8217;t have a personal experience with that.</p>
<p>I do have personal experience with WeHo deputies.  I know they aren&#8217;t too good.  Maybe bikers making a ruckus over this will open the door for other people to complain about the Sheriff&#8217;s.  The Sheriff&#8217;s don&#8217;t have a good reputation . . . can we create an opportunity here for other groups to air their issues with them?</p>
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		<title>By: humm</title>
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		<dc:creator>humm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 22:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are you yelling ?Why are you calling names?Chill homie..This is not a argument.
Anyways, no I dont think you are cry babies and for sure did not see any justification written but only said there is collateral.

I clearly  said it would be nice if it the fusion in this  case would have been lit by a stronger fuse.

Peace homie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are you yelling ?Why are you calling names?Chill homie..This is not a argument.<br />
Anyways, no I dont think you are cry babies and for sure did not see any justification written but only said there is collateral.</p>
<p>I clearly  said it would be nice if it the fusion in this  case would have been lit by a stronger fuse.</p>
<p>Peace homie</p>
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		<title>By: the reverend dak</title>
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		<dc:creator>the reverend dak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 21:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ &lt;strike&gt;Dumm&lt;/strike&gt;Humm,

We&#039;re crybabies because we are pissed off by the way we are handled by the Sheriff&#039;s Department? That&#039;s what it sounds like you&#039;re saying. That&#039;s bullshit buddy. You&#039;re entitled to your opinion, absolutely. But I&#039;m also entitled to call you on your BULLSHIT. Rights were violated, period. Don&#039;t justify their actions with ridiculous examples that have nothing to do with what is going on here. Yeah, this isn&#039;t Abu Ghraib. Waahh! But on the same note, this ISN&#039;T Abu Ghraib!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ <strike>Dumm</strike>Humm,</p>
<p>We&#8217;re crybabies because we are pissed off by the way we are handled by the Sheriff&#8217;s Department? That&#8217;s what it sounds like you&#8217;re saying. That&#8217;s bullshit buddy. You&#8217;re entitled to your opinion, absolutely. But I&#8217;m also entitled to call you on your BULLSHIT. Rights were violated, period. Don&#8217;t justify their actions with ridiculous examples that have nothing to do with what is going on here. Yeah, this isn&#8217;t Abu Ghraib. Waahh! But on the same note, this ISN&#8217;T Abu Ghraib!</p>
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		<title>By: humm</title>
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		<dc:creator>humm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 21:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction - should read
Not for any thieving but simply for not letting  a man in uniform tell me what I should or should not do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction &#8211; should read<br />
Not for any thieving but simply for not letting  a man in uniform tell me what I should or should not do.</p>
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		<title>By: humm</title>
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		<dc:creator>humm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 21:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome to reality. I myself  am  ashamed to say that I ve been in and out of corrective institutions for acting like a hard ass on many occasion when I was young.Not for any thieving but simply for not letting me a man in uniform tell me what I should or should not do. Good fortune that it did not made me the person I am.So it would be pointless to  try to explain how Ive changed to be a unselfish, law biding , better person.I just want to give my opinion because there is this urge to do it.

Most of what is written on here is valid but close to  petty
1) Cops yell at you and threaten to take you bikes
2) Someone was arrested ,  although a bit rough by your standards. Take into account they already had a unpaid ticket and dismissed responsibility to take care of it. Would you have made a big deal if they would have arrested them in a scenario where bicycling was not involved?
3)Sheriffs did not clean up vomit for over 40 min. (Comical)

  My point is that you have good intentions. Its just that I cant help to notice how out of touch with reality you are (based on reading  this post)
Daily , hourly , many worse things are happening which are considered collateral damage in the process of enforcing the law.Wish you could have a bird&#039;s eyeview or  the experience of visiting a county jail or a juvenile hall and seeing how the human spirit is broken down creating generations and generations of people which you would probably avoid on a daily basis and probably would not lift a finger on their defense.
I cant tell you that a group of 200 young minority could from Compton would not run around the city drinking and fucking around like we do with out the cops coming down hard.Most people would be afraid including most of the people that ride on these rides.
Yet getting a light shined on their face and getting arrested for a outstanding ticket is the least of their worries.Maybe some are already thinking, &quot;That&#039;s not our problem, Let them fight their own fight&quot;
Again, although I commend you on the intention.I think your complaints are petty and would love to see you pick a bigger battle.
My opinion, remember, we are all free to use it and that makes us have a great thing in common.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to reality. I myself  am  ashamed to say that I ve been in and out of corrective institutions for acting like a hard ass on many occasion when I was young.Not for any thieving but simply for not letting me a man in uniform tell me what I should or should not do. Good fortune that it did not made me the person I am.So it would be pointless to  try to explain how Ive changed to be a unselfish, law biding , better person.I just want to give my opinion because there is this urge to do it.</p>
<p>Most of what is written on here is valid but close to  petty<br />
1) Cops yell at you and threaten to take you bikes<br />
2) Someone was arrested ,  although a bit rough by your standards. Take into account they already had a unpaid ticket and dismissed responsibility to take care of it. Would you have made a big deal if they would have arrested them in a scenario where bicycling was not involved?<br />
3)Sheriffs did not clean up vomit for over 40 min. (Comical)</p>
<p>  My point is that you have good intentions. Its just that I cant help to notice how out of touch with reality you are (based on reading  this post)<br />
Daily , hourly , many worse things are happening which are considered collateral damage in the process of enforcing the law.Wish you could have a bird&#8217;s eyeview or  the experience of visiting a county jail or a juvenile hall and seeing how the human spirit is broken down creating generations and generations of people which you would probably avoid on a daily basis and probably would not lift a finger on their defense.<br />
I cant tell you that a group of 200 young minority could from Compton would not run around the city drinking and fucking around like we do with out the cops coming down hard.Most people would be afraid including most of the people that ride on these rides.<br />
Yet getting a light shined on their face and getting arrested for a outstanding ticket is the least of their worries.Maybe some are already thinking, &#8220;That&#8217;s not our problem, Let them fight their own fight&#8221;<br />
Again, although I commend you on the intention.I think your complaints are petty and would love to see you pick a bigger battle.<br />
My opinion, remember, we are all free to use it and that makes us have a great thing in common.</p>
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		<title>By: Brigitte</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brigitte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 17:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is just another example of how ass backwards the structures of power are in this society.  I don&#039;t know what to say other than I&#039;d like to talk more about this in person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is just another example of how ass backwards the structures of power are in this society.  I don&#8217;t know what to say other than I&#8217;d like to talk more about this in person.</p>
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		<title>By: SKD</title>
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		<dc:creator>SKD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 16:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You must fight back economically and politically.
Show them you will take your money and spend it somewhere else.
You will also spread the word that West Hollywood sucks for bicyclists.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEZzL06kL88</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You must fight back economically and politically.<br />
Show them you will take your money and spend it somewhere else.<br />
You will also spread the word that West Hollywood sucks for bicyclists.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEZzL06kL88" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEZzL06kL88</a></p>
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		<title>By: bentstrider</title>
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		<dc:creator>bentstrider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 15:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Despite how inefficient the deputies were being, we have to look at who gives them their orders.
I&#039;m not taking any sides on this, but in the case of LASD being used as a contract, police-force for W.Hollywood, the city council is ultimately responsible for how policies are written, and then enforced by their chosen lwa enforcement.
Judging by the earlier incidents involving the stereo-trailer and Limeyfly, I&#039;m beginning to assume that the city-council must have a problem with the midnightridazz activities in general.

There were plenty of drunken individuals walking all over the street that night, and the deputies seemed to act as if they weren&#039;t there.
Why the deputies acted this way towards our group and more specifically, Franz, would probably go to show that they had a directive to act upon.
At the same time though, the deputies have never encountered a situation like this before, and decided to treat it as a literal, &quot;quelling of the mob&quot;, ie., adhering to general, crowd engagement-tactics that were probably taught to them at the LA Sheriff&#039;s Academy.

Before future jaunts through this particular municipality, some of us should consider getting some feedback from the city-council in regards to any existing policies towards groups of our style/caliber.
Challenge them on these issues and then suggest that they form a set of engagement rules to be adhered to, by their respective police-force.

I myself, am still considering getting into law-enforcement, but when I do, it&#039;s most likely going to be at a state, or federal level.
That way, I won&#039;t have to deal with handling anything as asinine as this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despite how inefficient the deputies were being, we have to look at who gives them their orders.<br />
I&#8217;m not taking any sides on this, but in the case of LASD being used as a contract, police-force for W.Hollywood, the city council is ultimately responsible for how policies are written, and then enforced by their chosen lwa enforcement.<br />
Judging by the earlier incidents involving the stereo-trailer and Limeyfly, I&#8217;m beginning to assume that the city-council must have a problem with the midnightridazz activities in general.</p>
<p>There were plenty of drunken individuals walking all over the street that night, and the deputies seemed to act as if they weren&#8217;t there.<br />
Why the deputies acted this way towards our group and more specifically, Franz, would probably go to show that they had a directive to act upon.<br />
At the same time though, the deputies have never encountered a situation like this before, and decided to treat it as a literal, &#8220;quelling of the mob&#8221;, ie., adhering to general, crowd engagement-tactics that were probably taught to them at the LA Sheriff&#8217;s Academy.</p>
<p>Before future jaunts through this particular municipality, some of us should consider getting some feedback from the city-council in regards to any existing policies towards groups of our style/caliber.<br />
Challenge them on these issues and then suggest that they form a set of engagement rules to be adhered to, by their respective police-force.</p>
<p>I myself, am still considering getting into law-enforcement, but when I do, it&#8217;s most likely going to be at a state, or federal level.<br />
That way, I won&#8217;t have to deal with handling anything as asinine as this.</p>
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		<title>By: EDDIWEBOYINLA</title>
		<link>http://www.bikesidela.org/weho-sheriffs-aggress-toward-cyclists/comment-page-1/#comment-1901</link>
		<dc:creator>EDDIWEBOYINLA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 11:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I WAS THERE, AND THAT WAS TOTALLY WRONG THE WAY THE SHERIFF, MESSED WITH THE WHITE MAN, THE MEXICAN, AND THE BROTHER, NO RESPECT, I TELL YA, NO RESPECT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I WAS THERE, AND THAT WAS TOTALLY WRONG THE WAY THE SHERIFF, MESSED WITH THE WHITE MAN, THE MEXICAN, AND THE BROTHER, NO RESPECT, I TELL YA, NO RESPECT.</p>
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