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	<title>Comments on: R.I.P. Rod Armas:  A letter from the LA Wheelmen</title>
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		<title>By: Alex Thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Aug 2010 03:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right on Hans!</description>
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		<title>By: Hans Laetz</title>
		<link>http://www.bikesidela.org/rip-rod-armas-a-letter-from-the-la-wheelmen/comment-page-1/#comment-6068</link>
		<dc:creator>Hans Laetz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two major corrections here:

(1) PCH is -NOT- one of the most-dangerous highways in the United States. From the LA Times:

&quot;Despite the busy roads, law enforcement officials question the assertion that the highway (PCH) is unusually deadly.

&quot;Traffic Sgt. Philip Brooks at the sheriff&#039;s Malibu/Lost Hills Station, said PCH is no more statistically unsafe than similar roadways throughout the state.

&quot;Collision data from the Sheriff&#039;s Department and the state show fatal crashes on the 21-mile stretch of PCH within Malibu city limits have averaged about 2.5 per year for the last decade.

&quot;State data show that the number of collisions in Malibu — including property damage, injury and fatal collisions — did not change significantly from 1997 to 2008. And on a per-mile basis, the fatal crash rate was considerably higher in the two-mile stretch of PCH running through West Los Angeles.&quot;

Secondly, and far-more importantly:
THERE IS NO SUCH THING as a &quot;legal limit&quot; for alcohol in the blood system to make a driver drunk.

California law says that ANY alcohol in a blood stream, if it influences the driver&#039;s ability, makes that driver guilty of driving under the influence.

.02 BAC in a driver who &quot;nods off&quot; is conclusive evidence of &quot;driving under the influence of alcohol.&quot;

California law DOES NOT SET .08 as the minimum level for driving under the influence of alcohol. It says that any driver with a BAC of .08 or above is legally presumed to be DUI.

A person, driving late at night with a .02 BAC, who nods off, is just as guilty of DUI as someone who blows .085 BAC. 

There is no such thing as a safe level of alcohol in the bloodstream.  


urt his son Christian…the driver WAS NOT drunk. He nodded off behind the wheel. The driver’s blood alcohol level was 0.02 In California the legal limit is 0.08 This is just one of many inaccuracies about this accident.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two major corrections here:</p>
<p>(1) PCH is -NOT- one of the most-dangerous highways in the United States. From the LA Times:</p>
<p>&#8220;Despite the busy roads, law enforcement officials question the assertion that the highway (PCH) is unusually deadly.</p>
<p>&#8220;Traffic Sgt. Philip Brooks at the sheriff&#8217;s Malibu/Lost Hills Station, said PCH is no more statistically unsafe than similar roadways throughout the state.</p>
<p>&#8220;Collision data from the Sheriff&#8217;s Department and the state show fatal crashes on the 21-mile stretch of PCH within Malibu city limits have averaged about 2.5 per year for the last decade.</p>
<p>&#8220;State data show that the number of collisions in Malibu — including property damage, injury and fatal collisions — did not change significantly from 1997 to 2008. And on a per-mile basis, the fatal crash rate was considerably higher in the two-mile stretch of PCH running through West Los Angeles.&#8221;</p>
<p>Secondly, and far-more importantly:<br />
THERE IS NO SUCH THING as a &#8220;legal limit&#8221; for alcohol in the blood system to make a driver drunk.</p>
<p>California law says that ANY alcohol in a blood stream, if it influences the driver&#8217;s ability, makes that driver guilty of driving under the influence.</p>
<p>.02 BAC in a driver who &#8220;nods off&#8221; is conclusive evidence of &#8220;driving under the influence of alcohol.&#8221;</p>
<p>California law DOES NOT SET .08 as the minimum level for driving under the influence of alcohol. It says that any driver with a BAC of .08 or above is legally presumed to be DUI.</p>
<p>A person, driving late at night with a .02 BAC, who nods off, is just as guilty of DUI as someone who blows .085 BAC. </p>
<p>There is no such thing as a safe level of alcohol in the bloodstream.  </p>
<p>urt his son Christian…the driver WAS NOT drunk. He nodded off behind the wheel. The driver’s blood alcohol level was 0.02 In California the legal limit is 0.08 This is just one of many inaccuracies about this accident.</p>
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		<title>By: L.A. survives Critical Mass; plus weekend rides, races and fireworks &#171; BikingInLA</title>
		<link>http://www.bikesidela.org/rip-rod-armas-a-letter-from-the-la-wheelmen/comment-page-1/#comment-5319</link>
		<dc:creator>L.A. survives Critical Mass; plus weekend rides, races and fireworks &#171; BikingInLA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jun 2010 06:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 52nd Annual Grand Tour, with rides from 200 to 400 miles. It was on last year’s Grand Tour that Rod Armas was killed and his son critically injured when they were struck by a truck allegedly driven Robert Sam [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 52nd Annual Grand Tour, with rides from 200 to 400 miles. It was on last year’s Grand Tour that Rod Armas was killed and his son critically injured when they were struck by a truck allegedly driven Robert Sam [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Jacobson</title>
		<link>http://www.bikesidela.org/rip-rod-armas-a-letter-from-the-la-wheelmen/comment-page-1/#comment-5006</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Jacobson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 18:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wake up!!
I often ride on that stretch on PCH late at night and was also participating in the LA Wheelmen&#039;s Grand Tour when Mr. Armas was killed.  In fact, I came across the crash site about 10 minutes after he and his son were run down and spoke with one of the LA County Sherrif&#039;s Deputies on the scene the following afternoon at the same location.  I&#039;ll spare you and any other readers the horrible details of what I witnessed that night.

To suggest in any way that anyone but Robert Sanchez is responsible for the damage he caused by his carelessness and criminal actions is closed minded and paranoid.  
Perhaps you should also avoid going to the afternoon Farmers Market in Santa Monica because you might be struck and killed by a senior motorist who could not pay attention to his driving responsibilities, as happened a few years ago.  Maybe you should simply stay in your home permamently to avoid any accidents that might happen out in the world.  
The Grand Tour (not race!) organizers chose the route carefully.  PCH itself is safe at night, more so than the more urban streets.  There are lights and well painted lines on PCH.  There is almost no traffic on PCH through North LA County at night.  There are also some drunk drivers late out there late at night.  If you simply can&#039;t understand the factors that lead to this tragedy, that doesn&#039;t make all of them them wrong or shameful.  It just makes you naive to the rest of the world. 
Cyclists have the legal, social, and moral rights to be out riding on PCH at 1:30 in the morning.  I will continue to do so.  I will also commute by bicycle through the Sepulveda Pass every day during rush hour.  I will ride through the Malibu canyons every Saturday as the racing motorcyclists come within inches of hitting me. I will also drive my car in a safe responsible manner.
I hope you do the same because YOU are ALSO responsible for my safety...
R.I.P. indeed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wake up!!<br />
I often ride on that stretch on PCH late at night and was also participating in the LA Wheelmen&#8217;s Grand Tour when Mr. Armas was killed.  In fact, I came across the crash site about 10 minutes after he and his son were run down and spoke with one of the LA County Sherrif&#8217;s Deputies on the scene the following afternoon at the same location.  I&#8217;ll spare you and any other readers the horrible details of what I witnessed that night.</p>
<p>To suggest in any way that anyone but Robert Sanchez is responsible for the damage he caused by his carelessness and criminal actions is closed minded and paranoid.<br />
Perhaps you should also avoid going to the afternoon Farmers Market in Santa Monica because you might be struck and killed by a senior motorist who could not pay attention to his driving responsibilities, as happened a few years ago.  Maybe you should simply stay in your home permamently to avoid any accidents that might happen out in the world.<br />
The Grand Tour (not race!) organizers chose the route carefully.  PCH itself is safe at night, more so than the more urban streets.  There are lights and well painted lines on PCH.  There is almost no traffic on PCH through North LA County at night.  There are also some drunk drivers late out there late at night.  If you simply can&#8217;t understand the factors that lead to this tragedy, that doesn&#8217;t make all of them them wrong or shameful.  It just makes you naive to the rest of the world.<br />
Cyclists have the legal, social, and moral rights to be out riding on PCH at 1:30 in the morning.  I will continue to do so.  I will also commute by bicycle through the Sepulveda Pass every day during rush hour.  I will ride through the Malibu canyons every Saturday as the racing motorcyclists come within inches of hitting me. I will also drive my car in a safe responsible manner.<br />
I hope you do the same because YOU are ALSO responsible for my safety&#8230;<br />
R.I.P. indeed!</p>
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		<title>By: ss</title>
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		<dc:creator>ss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 18:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About the &quot;alleged&quot; drunk driver who killed Rod and hurt his son Christian...the driver WAS NOT drunk. He nodded off behind the wheel. The driver&#039;s blood alcohol level was 0.02  In California the legal limit is 0.08  This is just one of many inaccuracies about this accident.

The driver nodded off and when he woke up he was miles away from the scene. He had not realized he hit anyone till he noticed his LEFT DRIVERS SIDE FRONT tire was loosing pressure. He then pulled over and noticed the blood on the bumper and realized he might have hit something. The driver turned himself in to the sheriffs who approached him where they found him. The driver was not told and did not realize he killed someone until he was in custody.

What happened to the Armas family is a horrible tragedy. One no family deserves or should ever experience. My heart goes out to them as do my prayers. 

But for the life of me I cannot understand why a man would take his 14 year old son onto ONE OF THE DEADLIEST HIGHWAYS IN THE UNITED STATES...at 1:30 in the morning! There is NO LIGHT out there on PCH. It&#039;s a deadly highway no one should be bycycling along at night. And shame on who ever organized this race....allowing ANY ONE to travel by bike on California&#039;s deadliest highway in the middle of the night!

It seems many factors contributed to this horrific accident. Not just the driver&#039;s carelessness. No one should drive tired. No one should EVER drive drunk. And in my opinion, no one should EVER travel by bike on PCH at 1:30 in the morning.

God Bless the Armas family. Rod, I hear you were a great man!
May your family find peace and be blessed always.
God bless the driver who has to live with what his carelessness has brought on him, his family as well as the Armas family.

R.I.P. Rodrigo Armas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About the &#8220;alleged&#8221; drunk driver who killed Rod and hurt his son Christian&#8230;the driver WAS NOT drunk. He nodded off behind the wheel. The driver&#8217;s blood alcohol level was 0.02  In California the legal limit is 0.08  This is just one of many inaccuracies about this accident.</p>
<p>The driver nodded off and when he woke up he was miles away from the scene. He had not realized he hit anyone till he noticed his LEFT DRIVERS SIDE FRONT tire was loosing pressure. He then pulled over and noticed the blood on the bumper and realized he might have hit something. The driver turned himself in to the sheriffs who approached him where they found him. The driver was not told and did not realize he killed someone until he was in custody.</p>
<p>What happened to the Armas family is a horrible tragedy. One no family deserves or should ever experience. My heart goes out to them as do my prayers. </p>
<p>But for the life of me I cannot understand why a man would take his 14 year old son onto ONE OF THE DEADLIEST HIGHWAYS IN THE UNITED STATES&#8230;at 1:30 in the morning! There is NO LIGHT out there on PCH. It&#8217;s a deadly highway no one should be bycycling along at night. And shame on who ever organized this race&#8230;.allowing ANY ONE to travel by bike on California&#8217;s deadliest highway in the middle of the night!</p>
<p>It seems many factors contributed to this horrific accident. Not just the driver&#8217;s carelessness. No one should drive tired. No one should EVER drive drunk. And in my opinion, no one should EVER travel by bike on PCH at 1:30 in the morning.</p>
<p>God Bless the Armas family. Rod, I hear you were a great man!<br />
May your family find peace and be blessed always.<br />
God bless the driver who has to live with what his carelessness has brought on him, his family as well as the Armas family.</p>
<p>R.I.P. Rodrigo Armas.</p>
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		<title>By: The bike court beat goes on &#171; BikingInLA</title>
		<link>http://www.bikesidela.org/rip-rod-armas-a-letter-from-the-la-wheelmen/comment-page-1/#comment-3027</link>
		<dc:creator>The bike court beat goes on &#171; BikingInLA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] case of the Malibu driver who fled the scene after running down two riders nearing the end of the L.A. Wheelmen’s 200 mile Grand Tour; killing a father and critically injuring his son. The tragedy was compounded by reports that the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] case of the Malibu driver who fled the scene after running down two riders nearing the end of the L.A. Wheelmen’s 200 mile Grand Tour; killing a father and critically injuring his son. The tragedy was compounded by reports that the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bike cases fill the dockets — Dr. Thompson was just the beginning &#171; BikingInLA</title>
		<link>http://www.bikesidela.org/rip-rod-armas-a-letter-from-the-la-wheelmen/comment-page-1/#comment-2426</link>
		<dc:creator>Bike cases fill the dockets — Dr. Thompson was just the beginning &#171; BikingInLA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 07:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] after fleeing the collision, which took place near the completion of the L.A. Wheelmen’s 200-mile Grand Tour Double Century. The preliminary setting, held prior to a preliminary hearing, is now scheduled for February 11 in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] after fleeing the collision, which took place near the completion of the L.A. Wheelmen’s 200-mile Grand Tour Double Century. The preliminary setting, held prior to a preliminary hearing, is now scheduled for February 11 in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: An alleged killer to be arraigned; peak hour lanes to be debated again in Northridge &#171; BikingInLA</title>
		<link>http://www.bikesidela.org/rip-rod-armas-a-letter-from-the-la-wheelmen/comment-page-1/#comment-2425</link>
		<dc:creator>An alleged killer to be arraigned; peak hour lanes to be debated again in Northridge &#171; BikingInLA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 05:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you may recall, Rod and his 14-year old son Christian were nearing the finish of the L.A. Wheelmen’s Grand Tour Double Century when they were struck by an alleged drunk driver on PCH near Malibu early in the morning of Sunday, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] you may recall, Rod and his 14-year old son Christian were nearing the finish of the L.A. Wheelmen’s Grand Tour Double Century when they were struck by an alleged drunk driver on PCH near Malibu early in the morning of Sunday, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: How to play in the street — Part 3: when not to ride &#171; BikingInLA</title>
		<link>http://www.bikesidela.org/rip-rod-armas-a-letter-from-the-la-wheelmen/comment-page-1/#comment-2424</link>
		<dc:creator>How to play in the street — Part 3: when not to ride &#171; BikingInLA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 07:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Rod and Christian Armas were struck by an allegedly intoxicated hit-and-run driver, resulting in the death of the father and severe injuries to the 14-year old [...]</description>
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