Comments on: Road Rage on the Planet of the Apes http://www.bikesidela.org/planet-of-the-apes/ Cyclists have the right to travel safely and free of fear. Fri, 27 Jan 2012 20:16:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: dooring & Famke Janssen - jeremygrant.com http://www.bikesidela.org/planet-of-the-apes/comment-page-1/#comment-2948 dooring & Famke Janssen - jeremygrant.com Wed, 03 Mar 2010 00:13:43 +0000 http://www.westsidebikeside.com/?p=453#comment-2948 [...] It’s the selfish maniacs like these that keep people (especially women) from riding bikes. As we enter the new decade, the bicycle is increasingly being considered a vital part of integrated transport systems and solution to traffic congestion. The car is on its way out. (source) [...] [...] It’s the selfish maniacs like these that keep people (especially women) from riding bikes. As we enter the new decade, the bicycle is increasingly being considered a vital part of integrated transport systems and solution to traffic congestion. The car is on its way out. (source) [...]

]]> By: skippy http://www.bikesidela.org/planet-of-the-apes/comment-page-1/#comment-2715 skippy Thu, 28 Jan 2010 09:44:39 +0000 http://www.westsidebikeside.com/?p=453#comment-2715 interesting article! read a lot about bike lanes and there is only way to go, that is to legislate 5ft bike lanes! car drivers who cannot afford the time to slow down and wait patiently behind a cyclist cannot afford the price of a car. as i grew up like others speed was King, but as i grew i found that i enjoyed quality of life by driving smart, less tension and nervousness and the reward was less expenses replacing brakes and fuel! drive smart ,treat others with respect and thus enjoy a better quality of life interesting article! read a lot about bike lanes and there is only way to go, that is to legislate 5ft bike lanes!
car drivers who cannot afford the time to slow down and wait patiently behind a cyclist cannot afford the price of a car.
as i grew up like others speed was King, but as i grew i found that i enjoyed quality of life by driving smart, less tension and nervousness and the reward was less expenses replacing brakes and fuel!
drive smart ,treat others with respect and thus enjoy a better quality of life

]]> By: skippy http://www.bikesidela.org/planet-of-the-apes/comment-page-1/#comment-2714 skippy Thu, 28 Jan 2010 09:44:39 +0000 http://www.westsidebikeside.com/?p=453#comment-2714 interesting article! read a lot about bike lanes and there is only way to go, that is to legislate 5ft bike lanes! car drivers who cannot afford the time to slow down and wait patiently behind a cyclist cannot afford the price of a car. as i grew up like others speed was King, but as i grew i found that i enjoyed quality of life by driving smart, less tension and nervousness and the reward was less expenses replacing brakes and fuel! drive smart ,treat others with respect and thus enjoy a better quality of life interesting article! read a lot about bike lanes and there is only way to go, that is to legislate 5ft bike lanes!
car drivers who cannot afford the time to slow down and wait patiently behind a cyclist cannot afford the price of a car.
as i grew up like others speed was King, but as i grew i found that i enjoyed quality of life by driving smart, less tension and nervousness and the reward was less expenses replacing brakes and fuel!
drive smart ,treat others with respect and thus enjoy a better quality of life

]]> By: Alex http://www.bikesidela.org/planet-of-the-apes/comment-page-1/#comment-2713 Alex Tue, 26 Jan 2010 19:10:28 +0000 http://www.westsidebikeside.com/?p=453#comment-2713 You could make that argument DJB, but I don't agree. Everyone is fixated on the model of northern Europe. There are places in the world where cycling is a huge thing, and there is little in the way of physical accommodation. The Netherlands post war for instance. Now you might argue that such things are only possible in a relative state of poverty, but we have seen it. What's the big difference between us and them, post war, as opposed to now? - Culture of respect - We have more ridable days Culture changes rapidly in LA, and more generally it changes faster than it used to. I think LA is well positioned for rapid change. You could make that argument DJB, but I don’t agree. Everyone is fixated on the model of northern Europe. There are places in the world where cycling is a huge thing, and there is little in the way of physical accommodation. The Netherlands post war for instance. Now you might argue that such things are only possible in a relative state of poverty, but we have seen it. What’s the big difference between us and them, post war, as opposed to now?

- Culture of respect
- We have more ridable days

Culture changes rapidly in LA, and more generally it changes faster than it used to. I think LA is well positioned for rapid change.

]]> By: DJB http://www.bikesidela.org/planet-of-the-apes/comment-page-1/#comment-2712 DJB Tue, 26 Jan 2010 15:52:21 +0000 http://www.westsidebikeside.com/?p=453#comment-2712 "[T]he shifts we need to make aren’t so much physical (bike lanes etc) but mental (culture of respect!)" ----- I dunno. I'd say the necessary shifts are more physical than you think. You're going to be hard pressed to expand bike ridership a lot without more bike lanes, sharrows, and such. I'd argue most people want that physical marker there to catch a driver's eye, and mark off some exclusive space. Bottom line is physical road conditions make cycling intimidating on most roads in LA. Drivers can respect you all they want, but if the road is too narrow, and the speed limit is 35 (or more), things are going to suck. “[T]he shifts we need to make aren’t so much physical (bike lanes etc) but mental (culture of respect!)”
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I dunno. I’d say the necessary shifts are more physical than you think. You’re going to be hard pressed to expand bike ridership a lot without more bike lanes, sharrows, and such. I’d argue most people want that physical marker there to catch a driver’s eye, and mark off some exclusive space.

Bottom line is physical road conditions make cycling intimidating on most roads in LA. Drivers can respect you all they want, but if the road is too narrow, and the speed limit is 35 (or more), things are going to suck.

]]> By: Matthew Moore http://www.bikesidela.org/planet-of-the-apes/comment-page-1/#comment-2711 Matthew Moore Tue, 26 Jan 2010 03:51:08 +0000 http://www.westsidebikeside.com/?p=453#comment-2711 Great article Alex, I'm inspired to attempt to get SMC Bike club up and running again for Spring 2010. p.s. if you know peps that go to smc and would be interested in bike club send them my way. Great article Alex, I’m inspired to attempt to get SMC Bike club up and running again for Spring 2010.

p.s. if you know peps that go to smc and would be interested in bike club send them my way.

]]> By: An open letter to the Los Angeles City Council and the cyclists of L.A. « BikingInLA http://www.bikesidela.org/planet-of-the-apes/comment-page-1/#comment-2710 An open letter to the Los Angeles City Council and the cyclists of L.A. « BikingInLA Mon, 25 Jan 2010 22:59:58 +0000 http://www.westsidebikeside.com/?p=453#comment-2710 [...] Alex observes that when the other Dr. Thompson returns to L.A. after five years in prison, he may not recognize the city — if cyclists stay involved. Flying Pigeon rides to, and samples the offerings of, the Eagle [...] [...] Alex observes that when the other Dr. Thompson returns to L.A. after five years in prison, he may not recognize the city — if cyclists stay involved. Flying Pigeon rides to, and samples the offerings of, the Eagle [...]

]]> By: hillary dixon rust http://www.bikesidela.org/planet-of-the-apes/comment-page-1/#comment-2709 hillary dixon rust Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:09:59 +0000 http://www.westsidebikeside.com/?p=453#comment-2709 absolutely amazing article. absolutely amazing article.

]]> By: Evan http://www.bikesidela.org/planet-of-the-apes/comment-page-1/#comment-2708 Evan Mon, 25 Jan 2010 18:10:43 +0000 http://www.westsidebikeside.com/?p=453#comment-2708 I have to say, the difference in five years is true. Or taking a bit longer view--I graduated from UCLA in 2001 and worked on campus through fall 2002. I came back to work on campus in 2008, and I couldn't believe the huge explosion in the number of bike riders on campus. It's impossible to find space on the bike racks in front of Ackerman! It was nothing like that when I was a student. Best of all, there's a group of dedicated students and staff wanting to expand bike access on campus (it seems that no one off campus has heard of the dismount zone controversy, but it's a big issue at UCLA). I have to say, the difference in five years is true. Or taking a bit longer view–I graduated from UCLA in 2001 and worked on campus through fall 2002. I came back to work on campus in 2008, and I couldn’t believe the huge explosion in the number of bike riders on campus. It’s impossible to find space on the bike racks in front of Ackerman! It was nothing like that when I was a student. Best of all, there’s a group of dedicated students and staff wanting to expand bike access on campus (it seems that no one off campus has heard of the dismount zone controversy, but it’s a big issue at UCLA).

]]> By: Roadblock http://www.bikesidela.org/planet-of-the-apes/comment-page-1/#comment-2707 Roadblock Mon, 25 Jan 2010 07:57:03 +0000 http://www.westsidebikeside.com/?p=453#comment-2707 Great points! the LA cycling community has the attention of the CC and and the LAPD like never before. As for Dr. Death, well, Thompson sold his house and moved in with his father a while back before his vacation at the gray bar hotel California. It's likely Los Angeles won't be his residence when he gets out but we should still meet him with a milkshake on his first day of freedom! Haha Great points! the LA cycling community has the attention of the CC and and the LAPD like never before. As for Dr. Death, well, Thompson sold his house and moved in with his father a while back before his vacation at the gray bar hotel California. It’s likely Los Angeles won’t be his residence when he gets out but we should still meet him with a milkshake on his first day of freedom! Haha

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