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	<title>Comments on: Disrespecting the bike lane in Santa Monica Pt 2</title>
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	<description>Resistance is futile.</description>
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		<title>By: links for 2009-11-12</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Westside BikeSIDE! » Disrespecting the bike lane in Santa Monica Pt 2 (tags: bikes santamonica) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ‘ello Guvnor &#171; BikingInLA</title>
		<link>http://www.bikesidela.org/disrespecting-the-bike-lane-in-santa-monica-pt-2/comment-page-1/#comment-2580</link>
		<dc:creator>‘ello Guvnor &#171; BikingInLA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] deaths — and in the bottom 10% in spending to make the roads safer. Westside Bikeside shares my biggest complaint about riding through the area’s newest Bike Friendly City. Monsters on Bikes invade Flying Pigeon [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] deaths — and in the bottom 10% in spending to make the roads safer. Westside Bikeside shares my biggest complaint about riding through the area’s newest Bike Friendly City. Monsters on Bikes invade Flying Pigeon [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Will Campbell</title>
		<link>http://www.bikesidela.org/disrespecting-the-bike-lane-in-santa-monica-pt-2/comment-page-1/#comment-2579</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m fascinated by people like the second commenter who can abandon the very valid principle at stake seemingly just for the sake of argument. Calling Mihai&#039;s point &quot;weak&quot; is laughably narrow -- especially when they close by further nulling their side with an insulting judgment of the rider in the photo as a &quot;wuss.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m fascinated by people like the second commenter who can abandon the very valid principle at stake seemingly just for the sake of argument. Calling Mihai&#8217;s point &#8220;weak&#8221; is laughably narrow &#8212; especially when they close by further nulling their side with an insulting judgment of the rider in the photo as a &#8220;wuss.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mihai</title>
		<link>http://www.bikesidela.org/disrespecting-the-bike-lane-in-santa-monica-pt-2/comment-page-1/#comment-2578</link>
		<dc:creator>Mihai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 02:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dennis - Yes, very true.  I have seen runners going against the direction of traffic IN the bike lane, and every so often, another cyclist coming straight at me.

Do you consider yourself a vehicular cyclist?  I bet you most of the people that ride bikes in Santa Monica don&#039;t even know the meaning of that term, much less have the confidence to swerve into traffic when they have to make a decision as the one described in the article.

Judging by your statement, I assume you&#039;d support painting sharrows in the rightmost lane of all streets in Santa Monica to let drivers know they&#039;re entitled to the whole lane.  I personally think that would be awesome.  But there&#039;s always going to be a percentage of folks that want some sort of dedicated bikeway, and if there&#039;s going to be a bike lane present, I would like to see it get some respect.  If you just tease cyclists with it and offer them a false sense of safety, then we might as well do away with bike lanes altogether.

You&#039;d be amazed how an unexpected accident can downgrade the most experienced cyclist you to a &quot;wussy&quot; rider, so be careful with your choice of words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dennis &#8211; Yes, very true.  I have seen runners going against the direction of traffic IN the bike lane, and every so often, another cyclist coming straight at me.</p>
<p>Do you consider yourself a vehicular cyclist?  I bet you most of the people that ride bikes in Santa Monica don&#8217;t even know the meaning of that term, much less have the confidence to swerve into traffic when they have to make a decision as the one described in the article.</p>
<p>Judging by your statement, I assume you&#8217;d support painting sharrows in the rightmost lane of all streets in Santa Monica to let drivers know they&#8217;re entitled to the whole lane.  I personally think that would be awesome.  But there&#8217;s always going to be a percentage of folks that want some sort of dedicated bikeway, and if there&#8217;s going to be a bike lane present, I would like to see it get some respect.  If you just tease cyclists with it and offer them a false sense of safety, then we might as well do away with bike lanes altogether.</p>
<p>You&#8217;d be amazed how an unexpected accident can downgrade the most experienced cyclist you to a &#8220;wussy&#8221; rider, so be careful with your choice of words.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis M</title>
		<link>http://www.bikesidela.org/disrespecting-the-bike-lane-in-santa-monica-pt-2/comment-page-1/#comment-2577</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cycle all the time in Santa Monica, but I think you&#039;re making a really weak argument here.

Sometimes skateboarders and pedestrians obstruct the bike lanes, not to mention idiot cyclists riding the wrong way. How does one handle such situations? You just deal with it! Go around them just like I&#039;d go around the parked trucks shown in your photos.

By the way, the street in your photos was virtually deserted of vehicular traffic. There was no earthly reason for the wuss rider in the picture to ride on the sidewalk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cycle all the time in Santa Monica, but I think you&#8217;re making a really weak argument here.</p>
<p>Sometimes skateboarders and pedestrians obstruct the bike lanes, not to mention idiot cyclists riding the wrong way. How does one handle such situations? You just deal with it! Go around them just like I&#8217;d go around the parked trucks shown in your photos.</p>
<p>By the way, the street in your photos was virtually deserted of vehicular traffic. There was no earthly reason for the wuss rider in the picture to ride on the sidewalk.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Cahn</title>
		<link>http://www.bikesidela.org/disrespecting-the-bike-lane-in-santa-monica-pt-2/comment-page-1/#comment-2576</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Cahn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice work, the camera always on the ready, it is really our best tool,  - but the telephone in not bad either - Parking enforcement (310) 458-8466 could help, - this is clearly a very important issue, and it needs to be resolved, especially in Santa &quot;Bronze&quot; Monica.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice work, the camera always on the ready, it is really our best tool,  &#8211; but the telephone in not bad either &#8211; Parking enforcement (310) 458-8466 could help, &#8211; this is clearly a very important issue, and it needs to be resolved, especially in Santa &#8220;Bronze&#8221; Monica.</p>
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