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	<title>Comments on: Beverly Hills does hit and run better</title>
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		<title>By: Chau Lun</title>
		<link>http://www.bikesidela.org/beverly-hills-does-hit-and-run-better/comment-page-1/#comment-2702</link>
		<dc:creator>Chau Lun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 10:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Triple Steve said...

And this is only one side of the story.
The registered owner could have the driver or the driver borrowed the car.  No suspect ID&#039;ed, no one to charge.  Perhaps the car should be arrested...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Triple Steve said&#8230;</p>
<p>And this is only one side of the story.<br />
The registered owner could have the driver or the driver borrowed the car.  No suspect ID&#8217;ed, no one to charge.  Perhaps the car should be arrested&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
		<link>http://www.bikesidela.org/beverly-hills-does-hit-and-run-better/comment-page-1/#comment-2701</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 01:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That story is fucking unbelievable. Let that happen to a member of a cops family and I am sure the outcome would have been far different. I&#039;ll bet the driver is more influential than the average driver and was given undue leniency.

As far as I know, it is clearly a hit and run and a violation of the vehicle code. Isn&#039;t the criteria for reporting an accident (and not driving off) supposed to be injuries and $500 damage? That is why it is absolutely critical to force the responding cop to write a report with all the pertinent data. Then, the driver, and/or the vehicle being driven, which MUST be insured, can face the consequences of criminal and civil action. And, if there are witnesses, get their name, telephone number and pertinent data. I was almost run off the road by a Big Blue Bus (I had the route, location and time), but they claimed that I should have gotten the bus number. Clever way of avoiding the consequences.

In the last three years I have witnessed several vehicle accidents and have always given my telephone number to the person not responsible for the accident. In each instance, I gave phone depositions.

Safe riding!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That story is fucking unbelievable. Let that happen to a member of a cops family and I am sure the outcome would have been far different. I&#8217;ll bet the driver is more influential than the average driver and was given undue leniency.</p>
<p>As far as I know, it is clearly a hit and run and a violation of the vehicle code. Isn&#8217;t the criteria for reporting an accident (and not driving off) supposed to be injuries and $500 damage? That is why it is absolutely critical to force the responding cop to write a report with all the pertinent data. Then, the driver, and/or the vehicle being driven, which MUST be insured, can face the consequences of criminal and civil action. And, if there are witnesses, get their name, telephone number and pertinent data. I was almost run off the road by a Big Blue Bus (I had the route, location and time), but they claimed that I should have gotten the bus number. Clever way of avoiding the consequences.</p>
<p>In the last three years I have witnessed several vehicle accidents and have always given my telephone number to the person not responsible for the accident. In each instance, I gave phone depositions.</p>
<p>Safe riding!</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 01:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frickin&#039; inexcusable. Lineups are patently unreliable and should not be used as an excuse not to pursue investigation:

http://bit.ly/8qTcLy

http://bit.ly/iLuR4</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frickin&#8217; inexcusable. Lineups are patently unreliable and should not be used as an excuse not to pursue investigation:</p>
<p><a href="http://bit.ly/8qTcLy" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/8qTcLy</a></p>
<p><a href="http://bit.ly/iLuR4" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/iLuR4</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ivan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 00:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A suite should be brought against BHPD and then another against the driver when Brandon gets that information BACK.  Just absurd.  AT this would be a good starting point for you new non-profit.  Get after them and don&#039;t let up!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Take these fuckers to court!  You have every goddamn right Brandon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A suite should be brought against BHPD and then another against the driver when Brandon gets that information BACK.  Just absurd.  AT this would be a good starting point for you new non-profit.  Get after them and don&#8217;t let up!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Take these fuckers to court!  You have every goddamn right Brandon.</p>
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		<title>By: Sherpa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sherpa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 00:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a resident of BH this is another embarrassing incident to overcome. I put in a call to the new City Mgr. Jeff Kolin, who is allegedly a cyclist. Perhaps if everyone called in and demanded action from the City Manager to get equal treatment for cyclists traveling in BH it would be more productive then ranting on a blog. Here is the number in case you feel compelled to call, 310-285-1012.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a resident of BH this is another embarrassing incident to overcome. I put in a call to the new City Mgr. Jeff Kolin, who is allegedly a cyclist. Perhaps if everyone called in and demanded action from the City Manager to get equal treatment for cyclists traveling in BH it would be more productive then ranting on a blog. Here is the number in case you feel compelled to call, 310-285-1012.</p>
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		<title>By: jennix</title>
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		<dc:creator>jennix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 23:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes... at an accident the first thing you should do is get out your cellphone, turn on the video camera and just carry it around with you. Don&#039;t bother to point out to anybody that you&#039;re doing it, but take careful note or ALL the circumstances you can: the location of the vehicle(s), the people in the vehicles, the license plate(s) involved, record witnesses information, take statements, do ANYTHING you can to document what&#039;s going on. When you do get to civil court, your opponent will do everything possible to distort EVERY fact of the situation which does not favor their case. Having as much info as possible in your favor is terribly important.

Sorry about your sitch, Brandon. Good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes&#8230; at an accident the first thing you should do is get out your cellphone, turn on the video camera and just carry it around with you. Don&#8217;t bother to point out to anybody that you&#8217;re doing it, but take careful note or ALL the circumstances you can: the location of the vehicle(s), the people in the vehicles, the license plate(s) involved, record witnesses information, take statements, do ANYTHING you can to document what&#8217;s going on. When you do get to civil court, your opponent will do everything possible to distort EVERY fact of the situation which does not favor their case. Having as much info as possible in your favor is terribly important.</p>
<p>Sorry about your sitch, Brandon. Good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: shinobi_drk</title>
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		<dc:creator>shinobi_drk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 23:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok then! So next time I hit anything with my car, be it another car, biker, or pedestrian, all I have to do is speed off and if I&#039;m fast enough, no one would have seen my face.

I&#039;ll be sure to drive around with a ski mask from now on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok then! So next time I hit anything with my car, be it another car, biker, or pedestrian, all I have to do is speed off and if I&#8217;m fast enough, no one would have seen my face.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be sure to drive around with a ski mask from now on!</p>
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		<title>By: danceralamode</title>
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		<dc:creator>danceralamode</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 23:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So if I get hit by a car, the first thing I should do, provided that I can walk, is attempt to snap a picture of the driver?

If they have the make and model of the car, can&#039;t they reasonably prove who was driving it, regardless of the line-up?

I hope this civil suit proceeds and is successful. No one should get away with a hit and run aka attempted murder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So if I get hit by a car, the first thing I should do, provided that I can walk, is attempt to snap a picture of the driver?</p>
<p>If they have the make and model of the car, can&#8217;t they reasonably prove who was driving it, regardless of the line-up?</p>
<p>I hope this civil suit proceeds and is successful. No one should get away with a hit and run aka attempted murder.</p>
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		<title>By: Triple Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Triple Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 23:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It kinda sounds like by picking the wrong person out of the lineup he just completely ruined the case for the police and DA. The police probably shouldn&#039;t have done a lineup but I don&#039;t see how the prosecution could possibly win with the failed ID, the defense will certainly be able to bring it up in court. I can&#039;t imagine the police/DA would be very happy with the situation either.

He might do better with the civil case because the burden of proof is lower.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It kinda sounds like by picking the wrong person out of the lineup he just completely ruined the case for the police and DA. The police probably shouldn&#8217;t have done a lineup but I don&#8217;t see how the prosecution could possibly win with the failed ID, the defense will certainly be able to bring it up in court. I can&#8217;t imagine the police/DA would be very happy with the situation either.</p>
<p>He might do better with the civil case because the burden of proof is lower.</p>
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		<title>By: roadblock</title>
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		<dc:creator>roadblock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>another day another sad hit and run case in which the cops just don&#039;t seem to care much...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>another day another sad hit and run case in which the cops just don&#8217;t seem to care much&#8230;</p>
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